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[PrejudiceSucks]

JC is way better as a choice than Solid Snake. Snake is just a fool.

Also Deus Ex is a far better game. That influenced my opinion somewhat.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

At the time I had no idea who either of them were, and now after voting I still have no idea who they are and I'm sure I could find out by reading the thread, but there's no need for that. I voted Solid Snake, was that his name? anyway it sounded cooler.

[TheSmyth]

Denton.    Definitely.
Ultra-cool and cybernetically enhanced.

Not to mention Snake can't even use a sniper rifle without a little something to calm his nerves.

[DeathDude]

Well yeah granted that's true in regards to snake, but you still have to upgrade JC skills in the rifle department for him to be a decent shot, otherwise it's shaky aim still.

[TheSmyth]

But at least Denton learns.. What does snake do but repeat the same actions for the whole series of games?

"Oh look, a gaurd... I'll just wait until this radar tells me he can't see me and snap his neck... Then I'll drag him behind this tank, and do the same to the next gaurd.."

That said, I do still enjoy the Snake games.

[DeathDude]

yeah that's very true, great summary of how snake acts though, good stuff.

[BlackMageJawa]

Hmm, I'd assumed that the PC bias here would have given JC a big edge.

I'll admit that I never really got into Deus Ex, but the character never appealed to me that much. Whereas I'm a BIG fan of Snake.

[Flop]

I'm gonna go with Solid Snake because he is reminiscent of Snake Plissken, the coolest action hero ever (with the stupidest name ever).

[auhsor]

I went with Denton. Deus Ex was the coolest game when I played it, and that was a couple of years after it came out. I was sad because whenever I talked to my friends, they had never heard of it. Like it won all these awards and that, but people just hadn't heard of it. Don't go near the sequel... it was dumbed down alot for consoles, and ran very bad on PC's.

To be honest I havn't played the MGS games, but from screenshots I've seen, he does seem like a pretty cool dude, it's just that Denton is cooler.

[Jacek Dobrzyniecki]

Who's Solid Snake?
I never played Deus Ex, so I don't think I can vote.

[MdaG]

auhsor, on May 31 2005, 12:36 PM, said:

I went with Denton. Deus Ex was the coolest game when I played it, and that was a couple of years after it came out. I was sad because whenever I talked to my friends, they had never heard of it. Like it won all these awards and that, but people just hadn't heard of it. Don't go near the sequel... it was dumbed down alot for consoles, and ran very bad on PC's.

To be honest I havn't played the MGS games, but from screenshots I've seen, he does seem like a pretty cool dude, it's just that Denton is cooler.

Sold out rereleased Deux Ex. I bougth it out of sheer nostalgia. It only costs £4 too.

[Aureliano]

Obviously Solid Snake is much cooler. He looks manlier, is sexually aware and is made of bone and flesh, most of him at least. I don't like machines and Denton is too much of a machine for my tastes.

[Solarjetman]

I didn't want to get involved but:

No contest. Denton is a one dimentional straw puppet who relies on the player to bring any a sense of emotion, perhaps a deliberate hole but one that leaves him, as a stand alone character, vapid and empty. Cool like a vacuum. Gadgets cyborg additions? Pah they may be fun but they don't make the character. Brother is a rebel and they both work for anti terroist group. wow.

Snake: an angst ridden, genetic soldier whose father was a power hungry meglomaniac and whose twin brother is also his nemesis. Being a soldier is all he knows, the rules of the battlefield define him and estrange him from emotional attachment, yet they boil under the surface and make interaction with other characters strained but deliberate. Takes dimazepam to steady his nerves, has combat suit and tuxedo, befriends wolves by covering himself in urine, absails down tall buildings and outwits a psychic who can see his every move. Oh and his best friend is a cyborg ninja. Sorry, is there a bias coming across here?

And relax.

[PrejudiceSucks]

What are you talking about? He's not a stand alone character at all and he brims with life. His enhancements are also one of the main parts of his character.

He didn't have parents, that's the whole point, he was a lab specimen and raised by scientists who pretended to be his parents before they were killed by MJ12. Denton also swaps sides, if you had played the game for more than about 2 hours you would have seen that.

He has to outwit the whole of the UN, his boss can see what he sees and the link never goes off. The main enemy, Walton Simmons is a cold-hearted bastard who kills his slightly-less-evil boss Joseph Manderly (or it's hinted at, especially if you kill him first) and takes over a whole anti-terrorist force for the Illuminati. How much cooler do you get?

The game is also totally non-linear and you choose the responses yourself, the game changes to how you play it.




Solid Snake on the other hand is a  total wankshaft who no-one can empathise with and you couldn't possibly outwit a psycic who saw everything coming unless they were particuarly stupid/merciful.

The game is totally linear and having a cyborg as a best friend smells of a kiddie-pleasing gimmick to me.

Also the cut-scenes are long, tedious and unskippable, free from any humour or real emotion, unlike pretty much all of Deus Ex's and you can skip them if you choose.

Solid Snake is the really one-dimensional one out of the two. Angst ridden is his only character trait really, JC Denton on the other hand is brooding, devoted and above all has a killer's mind. That is far better than dome emotionless *twit* who rides on the back of a badly written script.

Oh yeah, that brings me to another thing. JC has been voiced brilliantly, Snake has not.

Nuff said.

[MasterGrazzt]

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