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[Triton]

That's why you only kill cats when you have no other choice.  Cats aren't very common anyway, unless a summoner summons one, you walk through the mountains, or you find a tension room.

If you save Khelavaster, you'll get 6 SoCR.  There is a seventh if you teleport into a room in the HMV, and if you get the Weird Tome in the Library, you can get a cursed SoCR.  PoRC aren't very rare after the casino, and you could steal a SoCR or two in the Casino if you're lucky.  You can find a few SoCR in the Blue Dragon Caves quite easily, and any RoDS or WoW you find there may be best spent on more SoCR (three per wish).

[A. J. Raffles]

I thought the Weird Tome was worth five cursed scrolls?

About wishes, if you have a very literate character (a wizard or druid or elementalist, for example) with a high mana score, it's even better to wish for magical writing sets instead. They'll yield even more scrolls of chaos resistance (it'll lower your mana, of course, but you can easily raise that again by casting lots of expensive spells like identify or petrify).

[Eagle of Fire]

I don't think Triton will answer you soon... His member group is Banned..?  

[PrejudiceSucks]

Indeed. I would suggest a massive party, but I'd get banned like him too.

[MrBackAlleySka]

A. J. Raffles, on Sep 17 2005, 07:51 AM, said:

I thought the Weird Tome was worth five cursed scrolls?

I admit there are others that could answer this better than I, but I THINK your correct on that one. I'll ask the place where I get my info (Another forum, but I could care less to advertise another forum on here.) to make sure. I'm not 100% certian, and im just getting this thread back on track. (It wasn't really OFF, but it was borderline)   DakaSha might know more than I though.

[A. J. Raffles]

*cough, cough* Well, actually I distinctly remember getting five scrolls for it about a dozen times. I just didn't wish to be rude, you know...

[MdaG]

Eagle of Fire, on Sep 17 2005, 07:34 PM, said:

I don't think Triton will answer you soon... His member group is Banned..?  

   , but what did he do to deserve a ban? I'd like to see a link to what caused this.

[PrejudiceSucks]

Hmm probably him generally being an arsewhole merits it. But there we are. I don't think there's an isolated event.

[A. J. Raffles]

I don't think admin decisions will be discussed publically...

Back to ADOM: the blue dragon caves can be very nice, but they're also a risky business - much riskier than the rift library, I think. Actually I've never had any problems with the library, so I'd say the Weird Tome is definitely worth trying for.

[MdaG]

What do you do to prevent corruptions and where do you get the remedies?

[PrejudiceSucks]

That deserves a PM or a different topic rather than a response in a game's topic.

[A. J. Raffles]

To prevent them: be quick and don't hang out in corrupting areas.
For remedies, there's potions of cure corruption and scrolls of chaos resistance. Both can be generated randomly in the dungeons or shops, but they're pretty rare. And of course you can also get them through wishes or various quests. Are you sure you want full spoilers?

[MdaG]

I don't mind spoiler's when it comes to Rougelikes. These games prove enough of a challenge not to be spoiled by hints in my opinion

Too bad there isn't a spoler tag in this forum so that spoilers can be optional.

[A. J. Raffles]

Yes, too bad. I'll try old-fashioned spoiler space, then. Here's all the different ways to get your corruption down a bit, then (sorry, this is going to be a lengthy post, I'm afraid):

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- The village druid will give you a potion of cure corruption every time you bring him a heavily corrupted corpse, i.e. a black unicorn corpse, the corpse of Keethrax or any of the orb guardians. Just make sure they don't rot away before you reach Terinyo. (If you don't have food preservation, you can cook corpses by zapping a fire spell at them; dipping corpses into holy water will also make them rot more slowly.)
- If you descend through the small cave into the unremarkable dungeon and go to the high mountain village, there's a (cursed) scroll of chaos resistance in that secret room, but you can only get there if you can teleport and have teleport control.
- If you destroy the statues in the bug temple, you'll find a couple of (cursed) scrolls of chaos resistance inside one of them. I've never been able to get those myself, though, because the bug temple is a VERY dangerous place.
- If you have your climbing skill at 100 and are feeling lucky, you can try to climb down the rift and then go to the rift library. If you've waited for a certain amount of turns and then talk to the ghost librarian, he will give you the Weird Tome. If you deliver the Weird Tome to the mad minstrel, he'll give you five (cursed) scrolls of chaos resistance in return. If you're very lucky you might even find one at the library, but it's highly unlikely. Don't try the library too soon, though.
- If you're playing a neutral character who can teleport, you can teleport into the secret room in Dwarftown. The dwarven mystic sometimes rewards you with a couple of scrolls of chaos resistance - not always, though, and if your alignment is lawful, you'll get different things anyway. If you're chaotic you won't get anything.
- Save Khelavaster. This isn't easy to achieve, as you can only do it by finding an ultra-rare item (an amulet of life saving) first. It's well worth spending a wish on one, because Khelavaster will give you seven blessed scrolls of chaos resistance. If you have the amulet, do NOT talk to him or he will die. Just give him the amulet and watch.
- Do the white unicorn quest. If you kill the great black unicorn, the white unicorn will offer to remove all your corruptions - but only once, so it might be better to save that for later.
- If you have a few wishes to spare, you can wish for scrolls of chaos resistance (they remove more corruption than potions of cure corruption, so I wouldn't wish for potions). Alternatively, if you have a highly literate character (literacy at 100, high intelligence, wisdom and mana) who belongs to a spellcasting class (wizard, druid, elementalist), you can wish for magical writing sets and create scrolls of chaos resistance from blank scrolls. You need to have seen at least one scroll of chaos resistance in order to be able to write one, though. Blank scrolls can be obtained by dipping a stack of worthless scrolls (like scrolls of light) into an uncursed potion of water. Writing scrolls of chaos resistance reduces your mana, but you can easily train that up again by casting lots of spells.
- Any shop in an area which has a high enough danger level (Leggot's shop, Dwarftown, the casino shop) could potentially stock scrolls of chaos resistance or potions of cure corruption - provided the shop sells potions and scrolls, that is. Theoretically, you can keep buying the entire stock and let them restock until they've got the items you want, but in the long run this is both tedious and expensive (and of course you'll get corrupted in the meantime). I can't remember the danger levels exactly, but I think Barnabas might stock potions of cure corruption as well.
- It's possible to pickpocket potions of cure corruption and scrolls of chaos resistance from humanoid monsters, provided the danger level on the level you're currently on is high enough. Chances are slim, but pickpocketing can get you lots of other nice things as well, so you should definitely go for it and pickpocket all humanoids which aren't going to ring for alarm or strike you dead at once if you fail. If you're a very patient person, you can make use of a very handy little trick: after clearing the dwarven graveyard create one or two water traps by digging holes and covering it with plain blankets (fireproof or waterproof blankets work as well, but it's a waste), get a fluff ball from the gremlin cave and start breeding gremlins. Don't let them get out of hand, but it's usually perfectly safe to kill at least 2,000 of them before they get too tough. (Depending on how tough your character is, he might be able to handle even more) Make sure you successfully pickpocket all of them before you kill them. The reason why it's better to breed gremlins in the graveyard than in the gremlin cave is that the danger level is much higher (I've even pickpocketed wands of wishing in the graveyard, and their required danger level is even higher than that of scrolls of chaos resistance), but at the same time it's a non-corrupting area, so spending all that time pickpocketing and slaughtering gremlins won't corrupt you.

Overall, make sure you don't get corrupted unnecessarily by carrying corrupting artifacts like Moonsickle or the Black Tome or hanging out in highly corrupting areas too much.

Edited by A. J. Raffles, 19 September 2005 - 11:59 AM.

[BeefontheBone]

I tend to put spoilers in white text like this - they're a bit harder to read accidentally then.